# How Much Money Do I Need To Retire?

Have you asked that same question, how much money do I need to retire? There are many factors, such as when you plan to retire and how much you would like to spend. Because of this, knowing what you need to retire in Canada is not a simple answer, but there are a few simple calculations that might help to give you an idea.

### The 4% Rule

The 4% rule says that you can withdraw 4% from your portfolio in the first year. Then in future years you withdraw the same amount plus the adjustment for inflation. This allows you to decide if you have saved up enough money to cover your desired income level in retirement.

### The Rule Of 20

The rule of 20 suggests that for every \$1 of annual retirement income you would like, you’ll have to have \$20 saved up. So if you’re looking for \$20,000 over and above CPP and OAS, then you’ll want to have portfolio worth \$400,000 by the time you retire.

### The 10% Rule

While a little too simplified, the 10% rule tells us to save 10% of our gross income towards retirement. The idea being that it will give us a retirement income equal to what we’re used to now. My issue with this is the effect of this level of savings is dependent on what age someone starts saving towards retirement. The later you start, the higher percentage you might need to put away.

### The Rule Of 72

You can find out how long it should take to double your money with the rule of 72. Fir this calculation, you divide 72 by your expected return. so a 5% return would take 14.4 years to double your money. Of course with this rule, you’ll need to have a realistic percentage you expect for a return, you can’t always expect double digits in every single year.

### So, how much money do I need to retire?

Hopefully these retirement calculations will help you see what you’ll need to save to have the retirement you’re looking forward to. Keep in mind that a couple that have worked most of their adult lives and retired at 65 can expect CPP and OAS to pay as much as \$30,000 a year. So work that into your numbers and you’ll likely be pretty pleased with how easy it can be to retire comfortably with just a little planning!

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### 48 Responses to How Much Money Do I Need To Retire?

1. All of the above! Kidding of course.
The one part of retirement saving I am having issues with is how to evaluate our pensions (government based). Do we forgo bonds (at least for now) due to the stability of the pensions?

• The Ghost says:

Sustainable PF, that’s a very astute questions. In theory, if you have the discipline to evaluate your asset mix on the basis of your entire net worth (i.e. pensions, real estate, probability-weighted contingent assets such as inheritences, etc.), then a pension income stream could be capitalized in order to arrive at its lump-sum value. Essentially, this means applying a “capitalization rate” to the income stream.

On a government pension that is indexed to inflation, 5% is a good ballpark number to use. So the math goes something like this: \$10000 per year in CPP income divided by 5% equals \$200,000. It would be reasonable to consider this \$200,000 as part of your long-term (i.e. 20+ year) bond holdings. But again, because including this “asset” in your fixed income allocation will likely result in you allocating more to equity in your investment portfolio, you should really only do this if you can stomach the increased volatility that having that additional equity position, whose value you can track by the minute these days, would bring.

2. krantcents says:

Although I do not live in Canada, your question is still relevant. Most of my retirement income will be fixed (social security and pension), I will supplement with various tax deferred and other savings. My theory is to replace my current income adjusted for cost of living.

3. If you’re young ,don’t count on CPP and OAS too much as no one knows where things will be 30-40 years from now. Work out your retirement as if these programs did not exist and you will do just fine by then.

• Brenda Harris says:

I totally agree. Specially now that the USA government is re-thinking the retirement plan. I wouldn’t count on gov help too much.

4. Ralph says:

Good post exploring some options to consider when planning for retirement. I think many people are seeking help in this area.

5. Jessica07 says:

Take the final calculation of each of the above, add them together, and viola! That’s what I think I need. Ha-ha. Just kidding. Thanks for putting all these equations in one place!

6. Jenn says:

Keep in mind all these amounts are pretax. The \$30k from CPP/OAS will have tax deducted, and so will your withdrawals from whatever savings you accumulate. If you figure you’ll need \$50k/yr NET for expenses in retirement, you’ll need to save more to have that left after taxes.

In my own case travel will be a big component of an otherwise very frugal retirement budget. Initially I was budgetting for \$10k/yr endlessly through a retirement that could last 30-40yrs depending when I start and if I live to 95. Then I decided we were likely to do most of my travelling in the first 10-15yrs and less as time passed. Instead I’ve decided to only assume a very basic annual amount in my regular retirement budget for a couple of car trips to visit family or go away for a weekend. To cover the expensive international travel I hope to do in the early part of retirement, I’m setting up an entirely separate pool of money specifically for travelling. At this point I’m targetting \$150k (\$15k/yr for 10yrs). I figure we may spend more some years, less others, and maybe won’t travel every year, but it’s money that’s completely separate from our daily budgeting. To accomplish this we’ve decided that the \$5k we each put annually into our TFSAs will cover this after ~12yrs of contributions depending on our investment returns. We have 2yrs in and 10 to go on that.

Using the 4% rule (basically multiply what you need pretax x 25) we’ve already saved what we need for the basics of retirement at 65 plus a little more. We’ll continue to do \$10k annually to our TFSAs for travel, and then any extra we have goes toward paying off the mortgage early and building up excess in our RRSPs so we can retire earlier, before CPP & OAS kick in. Those years where we have to fund it completely on our own are a lot harder to fund that the ones after the goverment money starts rolling in. We’re 47/50 now and if all goes according to plan…we hope to retire in December 2020 at 57/60. We may fall short, but if we don’t set a goal to work towards, we’re far less likely to get there. My only regret is that we didn’t get our act together a couple of decades sooner. We could have been retiring or at least shifting to PT now. Hindsight’s always 20/20.

• @Jenn – saving up to travel in retirement is great, and you are most likely correct to assume that you will want to do it in your early retirement years. I know my aunt and uncle (now in their mid and late eighties) no longer enjoy traveling but they were very keen on it for 50 years.

Don’t neglect to have adventures before retirement as well!

7. It depends how you have lived before retirement. Times are tough. Many folks are still paying monthly mortgage in retirement.

8. Tom, I’m familiar with all of the metrics. The reality is that no matter how much money one has, there is a degree of uncertainty. I’m glad you raised the question and gave some solid recommendations. But there really is no easy answer! There’s definitely a psychological component as well.

9. Jason says:

I personally believe the rule of 72 is the proper way to determine how much you need to retire.

10. I would only feel safe retiring when i have at least \$200,000 saved up

11. David T. says:

Surely there’s not a 100 per cent way to determine how much money you need to retire, but I think some of these “rules” may give you a clue. In any case, better save some more money if you can – just for sure.

12. Virata Gamany says:

It’s actually that easy isnt it… Just set some aside but many can’t get around doing it…. Even \$50 bucks a month goes a long way but that lovely dinner out is just too hard to resist

13. Mario says:

Those are some interesting numbers. My question is what do you think is more affective for saving for retirement, an I.R.A. or a 401k account. Both have their perks but they both also have the downside of going up and down with the stock market

14. I’ve always used the Rule of 72 to figure out how much I need to retire..atleast that’s what I learned in school

15. All these rules of thumbs are good places to start, but I plan on simply being rich. I know, I know, a little easier said than done, but really, when it comes down to it, I feel as if I’ll always be working on something that will net me some income on the side, plus working on a career that whole time, and having my investments grow all the while. Then again, I really don’t think I’ll ever want to traditionally “retire”, or at least not at the age of 65. But who knows what the future holds.

16. Thanks for this great article Tom – I featured it in my weekly round up in “the best of the rest”

17. Some interesting options, personally i have now planned it on the basis that my requirements for retirement are X. From X i deduct state and private pensions estimated income giving a shortfall of Y and then use the 4% rule to work out what i need to make up the deficit. Once the 4% has been attained each extra X saved allows early retirement.

18. All of us want to lead a comfortable old age. None of us would like to spend the last phase of our life full of problems and poverty. So we need to plan accordingly and make some savings for the autumn of our Life.

19. Vind-Snel says:

Great post! It’s never to early to plan the future. It’s something people should consider more often.

20. I like how you have consolidated these into one post–I’ve known about most of them, but when you put them side by side you can compare much better.

I am in the US, and my husband and I each have Roth IRAs that we max out, then he has a 401(K) that he puts 3% into to get a company match of 3%, and then I have a pension that I pay into (I put 6% into it and my agency matches that…vested in 5 years and I am almost at 3 years of service).

I think the amount one needs to retire depends a lot on the lifestyle they want to live when they retire, what their investment strategy is, and whether or not they are able to park sufficient funds towards their retirement along the way.

If you own your home and it’s paid off at a fairly young age, the path to retirement could be a lot quicker depending on how you allocate your hard-earned dollars.

Some people also have to make changes to their retirement plans along the way. Not everyone will be able to avail of a good company or gov’t pension and finding ways to come out on top will require extra work.

Nice post

22. Ron says:

Thanks for the numbers Tom, “The Wealthy Canadian” above comments has made a very good point, how you retire depends on lifestyle choices.

As already noted most Canadian can expect about \$30,000.00 in government benefits. All most people need to do is have a part time job that makes them some extra cash. A job also provides a sense of purpose and give you something to do when you retire.

Retirement is supposed to be a time in a persons life to do different things, but too many people think they just sit at home and do nothing, time to change some lifestyles.

• Wilson says:

If you are retired and plan to live let say 20 years and will make 5% on your money, \$30,000 will pay you \$1500 per month. Not enough in my opinion.

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24. Money Varta says:

Such a nice post. Very helpful. I do agree with you regarding these rules that these will help to people for sure. But I think that there cannot be any rule that can specify or tell how much to save on an average. I think it is the financial goal that is most important. Depending upon the financial goal you can decide as to much save.

25. It largely depends on your current financial assets, as well as their projected evolution in the mid to long term. There is also the question of the lifestyle, what it is like today, and if it can be maintained tomorrow through your savings. Based on those factors, the answer to this question will largely vary.

26. Pam says:

Very informative post! Thanks for the tips. The biggest thing I think is to not be too conservative with your investments when planning for retirement at an early age. Since most really safe investments don’t keep up with inflation, you will have to save more if you don’t want to take any investment risks. Also, it’s important to factor in what you actually want to do in retirement, as others mentioned, this is key in deciding how much you really will need.

did anyone factor in rising medical bills and the risk of having to be in private homes and things like that
I would be interested to know. I was also following a thread on this on http://financiallysecure.weebly.com/forum.html#/
If you are interested to get another perspective you can try to read there as well

but I personnally think it depends big time on the style of life and comfort you want to have and your risk level

since in planning just the 4% rule you are taking some risk that you would be living as per your life now without any complications.

28. I keep our finances in Quicken and use the retirement planning software to estimate retirement income and expenses. Hopefully I will retire at 58 and do something else, like blog hopefully! I reduced the social security benefit by 10% due to uncertainty about changes in the entitlement program. Bottom line is we don’t really know what is going to happen and that is why living within your means, and saving are more important now than ever.
Thanks for your words of wisdom Tom!

29. There are a lot of people who would like to benefit from an early retirement extreme
, but it’s hard to know when you have enough money for retirement. Whenever a couple decides to retire, it would be better to have these rules in mind, to make the best decision.

30. Well if we do have 4% rule and 7% average income….the money will last forever and ever…

You can call it retirement or financial independence, I would be conservative. Whatever you are spending now – you will need 33 times more.

So if it is 50,000 a year, you will need 1,650,000 to retire. If think you need less, try to leave on less – prove it before you retire.

31. Leslie says:

Interesting. I never heard of most of those rules before. I find saving for retirement the easy part, it is putting that money into the right investment vehicle now a days that is scary and difficult.

32. Dan Gale says:

Great article, these days it is getting harder and harder unfortunately for younger generations to save for retirement. Solid investment strategies and budgeting are to easy to put aside especially when dealing with higher debt loads.

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34. Very few families, when starting out, or even when buying a property to retire to have the cash up front. So they go to mortgage lenders. There are many mortgage lending institutions in Canada and most of them offer similar deals. Much depends on the following; the property to be mortgaged, the amount one wishes to borrow, the amount of personal equity one is investing, one’s credit history, one’s assessed ability to pay.

35. I guess a lot, you can never can tell how much you will be needing from any circumstances during your retirement age,

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37. DP says:

My wife and I are 35 yrs old, and currently have approx \$120K in RSP and pension savings. Currently, when you combine our ongoing RSP and pension savings, we are putting approx \$24k away per year. Assuming we continue this for the next 20 years, will this be enough to retire at 55?

38. SST says:

Using the ’4% Rule’ and expenditure data, the average Canadian retiree household currently has a portfolio of ~\$300,000.

Assuming a two-person household, a future retiree would only need save \$275 per month over the course of 45 years (ages 20-65). This could be held in cash or low-risk inflation-indexed securities; no need to put anything into the stock market or mutual funds.

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43. You know I think the amount is subjective. While I have seen many people in my organization staying put for life basically (working full time until they pass away). This might be because they didn’t save or they were just afraid to “take the leap” from something they have been doing for so long. Anyway, there must be enough to factor in the kind of lifestyle you want. For some it will be \$500k for others it might mean \$5m.

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